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  • Crepello
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    Rumour has it the WC/BBs are back on again!

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  • CeeDee
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    Hear! Hear!

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  • Bob G
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    Forget common sense - i had seven on pre-order, and i know most southern modellers will want more than one! They are the necessary locomotive of choice on a southern model - much more than the Merchant Navy, so if Dapol are looking at air-smoothed MN sales as a guide they should think again. Farish chose the third batch of MN to be built that was only built post war, and was rebuilt 1956-57 so a pretty short lifespan and none appeared in true Southern livery. OK they have the chassis for a rebuilt MN, but why they didnt do that model from the start i dont know.

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  • Crooked Spire
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    Sorry. But a dozen or so people commenting that they like the idea of crowdfunding is hardly going to get the ball rolling.

  • Ed-Farms
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    Common sense suggests that the first batch will be for a certain type from the range they can produce, then they can make the others afterwards. Look at the 33 - we are still awaiting some models from the planned list so I doubt Dapol will want to flood the market with light pacifics straight away.

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  • Longbow
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    If it's a choice between limited variants or nothing I'll take the former. An Unrebuilt in just early and late BR green will do me just fine.

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  • JeremiahBunyan
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    - Firstly, there's minor detail differences even between the specific body types. IIRC when the CADs were originally released the Air-Smoothed ones had 3 variants and the Rebuilt ones had 2. I could be mistaken with the numbers but I'm sure there's variants. A lot of modelers will not want to put down that amount of money for generic models. We've moved well into the era of loco-specific details. And you'll already hear people grumble about small things. And why should Dapol be known as the manufacturer of a generic product? If that was the case the model would've been out ages ago as they'd only need to invest in two sets of tools and not 5+

    - Secondly, how many among us are ever ready to sit and apply numbers and nameplates? I know I am, but I've known a large number who won't be too happy to do that for various reasons ranging from the price of the product to just not being comfortable doing something like adding decals. The general consensus is that those who will most likely do the numbering are more than happy to renumber an RTR product anyway.

  • newportnobby
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    If it somehow gets the light pacific moved onto a Dapol schedule somewhere, would it help if just 2 options were made - air smoothed and rebuilt? Customers could turn to the likes of Fox Transfers* for their individual number/name preferences thus saving stocks of the less popular ones hanging around and then being discounted.
    *Other sources of names/numbers are no doubt available

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  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Crowdfunding is something that I've suggested to Dapol on quite a few occasions regarding a Class 87, Class 90 and Mk.3 Sleeper. Their response was sensible and straightforward, Dapol don't do crowdfunding because they are not comfortable asking customers for money upfront and they aren't comfortable holding onto customer's money.

    Crowdfunding may seem straightforward, but it's more complex than it seems, each crowdfunding campaign has different T&C's based on the situation and environment. There's many risks involved too and recently a manufacturer had issues where many fake expressions and orders were created.

    And to conclude, yes it's good to know that people are willing to crowdfund the model, but what are the numbers we're talking about here? In such a scenario one needs to sell more than 1000 models just to recoup the cost of development, are there enough of people to order 1000+ locos. 1000 is just an approximate and it could be more just to keep the RRP at a sensible level.

    There's also another predicament:-
    - If Dapol were to release the BoB/WC as a general release item, Dapol can periodically release locomotives over a span of a few years and recoup their investment. This is more sensible and easier on the pocket for us modelers who keep complaining about price rises.
    - If Dapol were to release the BoB/WC as a crowdfunded model, then just to drum up lots of sales they'll have to offer as many names/numbers/variations as possible so that they maximize their sales, and the catch to that is that they'll have to only go ahead with models that have crossed the minimum batch numbers. Eg: RevolutioN are struggling to get interest for a few liveries in the Class 320/321, yet others have a lot of interest. The ones with low interest have impacted the project quite a bit.

  • CeeDee
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    Having just posted a comment on the Crowdfunding section of N Gauge forum, the response is quite emphatic...there's a lot of people out there prepared to put their hand in their pocket to fund a BoB / WC project. How about it Dapol? Your customers are waiting!!

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  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Originally posted by Learner View Post
    Nearly 6 months have now passed since the last post here regarding the delay and/or cancellation of the N gauge light pacifics, because I am still rather confused as to whether Dapol have completely cancelled the BoB production or just put it into obeyance? Has there been any further updates or hints from Dapol about this - I haven't seen anything conclusive. Is there still hope we might eventually see the BoB (and WC) or am I living in false hope? Thanks.
    It has been put in abeyance for a reason and that is because there will be no further news until they have something worthwhile to share. There is no time limit to it. When they have news they'll share it.

    Cheers!

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  • Ed-Farms
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    Originally posted by Learner View Post
    Nearly 6 months have now passed since the last post here regarding the delay and/or cancellation of the N gauge light pacifics, because I am still rather confused as to whether Dapol have completely cancelled the BoB production or just put it into obeyance? Has there been any further updates or hints from Dapol about this - I haven't seen anything conclusive. Is there still hope we might eventually see the BoB (and WC) or am I living in false hope? Thanks.
    Nothing that I have seen, as far as I know its in obeyance. Am sure Dapol will bring this porject back when the timing is right.

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  • Learner
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    Nearly 6 months have now passed since the last post here regarding the delay and/or cancellation of the N gauge light pacifics, because I am still rather confused as to whether Dapol have completely cancelled the BoB production or just put it into obeyance? Has there been any further updates or hints from Dapol about this - I haven't seen anything conclusive. Is there still hope we might eventually see the BoB (and WC) or am I living in false hope? Thanks.

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  • ODRAILS
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    I did not write that the WC/BoB project is "totally cancelled" in the post to which Chris is referring. I did state that "Dapol would not now be producing the promised Bulleid Light Pacific...". By asking the question which he did in his post he obviously hadn't bothered to read the previous posts in this thread.
    I am very disappointed that Dapol has chosen either to delay indefinitely or not to continue the development of the light pacifics. Those of us who want to buy these models have waited six years from the initial announcement and are now left in limbo in that another manufacturer is unlikely to take on the risk of potential competition with Dapol.
    I am not "knocking" Dapol in any way - just registering my disappointment. BTW, I'm a satisfied owner of 2 x panniers, 1 x Ivatt tank, 2 x Schools, 1 x Q1, 1 x Britannia, 1 x 9F and a rake of Maunsell coaches
    Ian

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Ahh well part and parcel of the hobby I guess. Enough about this. Back to discussing the WC/BoB....
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