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  • Jcmjcm
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    Joel Dapol Thank you for listening and adding DCC compatibility to your planned model

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  • Daftbovine
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    I’ve just noticed that apart from having two log-ins (see Vectis above) I have been looking at the old M7 in jcmjcm’s photos. Please, please, Dapol, make sure you use the right font for the tank side numerals. The old M7 is correct but mistakes have been made on the new 00 SR Wainwright D class.

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  • Vectis
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    I’m pleased to see that the cab side numerals look right, Dapol have in the past used the wrong fonts so much so that I was put off buying a SR Terrier! The white lining does look a bit on the thick side. I am really looking forward to this model though.

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  • Wordsmith
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    Joel Dapol - thanks for your comments re renumbering of models. For someone coming back into the hobby after 50 odds years, a lot has changed. Maybe a short paragraph in the instructions you ship with each model stating that the numbers can be removed as per your method and renumbered using externally sourced transfers. It's certainly something I'll try when your M&'s come out - and something I didn't know before your post..

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  • Jcmjcm
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    Joel Dapol Attached are photos of a NEXT18 socket install. Only modifications were removal of floor and bunker wall moulding and a slither of plastic below the firebox door to make room for wire from motor to cab.
    Hope this helps
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    Decoder installed
    Cab view with decoder installed
    Happy to send more photos or loan you model if you want to take a closer look.
    Best Regards
    Jeremy

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  • Joel Dapol
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    Thanks for you input and we are looking at options for DCC fitting, but we are really limited for space but we will see what we can do.

    With regard to your other comment about unnumbered models, we have tried this in O gauge and in most cases the unnumbered models are often the ones that are left in stock, most people IMO want RTR to be exactly that and do not the hassle of numbering or applying transfers. From feedback from our customers, the numbers we apply by tampo printing are relatively easy to remove by gently rubbing with a cocktail stick and new numbers can be applied which are obtainable from numerous specialist suppliers.

    Thanks again for your comments

  • Wordsmith
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    My two pence worth...

    I'll echo the above comments - anyone starting or restarting railway modelling is probably going to start with a DCC layout (as I have). Not having a DCC option is going to cut you off from a significant market.

    Another thought - have you thought of suppling them un-numbered but with several loco numbers as 'Airfix' type transfers. Someone like myself, who's planning to model the Southern Railway pre WW2, would then have the option of buying several M 7's and being able to apply different running numbers to them - ditto the Terrier when that emerges in SR colours again. That would seem to be a low cost way of expanding the number of locos sold.

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  • Paul-H
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    Nice model, but in this day and age, I really can't believe Dapol even considered that making this non DCC ready was the way to go, what were you all thinking or on when that decision was made, must at have been some strong stuff being smoked that day. I don't mind converting models built before DCC became the norm but not going to do the work a lazey designer should have done these days. So these are not for me, Sorry.

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  • Joel Dapol
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    Hi Guys, even in a semi visible position on the cab floor will be a tight squeeze. However, we will investigate the possibility and come back to you.

  • Jcmjcm
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    I agree with Atso
    Closed cab doors and chip at low level. Next18 interface may help keep it all nice and compact.
    The majority of N gauge modellers at my local club have now converted to DCC so it seems a really backwards step not to include this feature in a retooled model

    Best Regards
    Jeremy

  • Atso
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    Hi Joel and Andy,

    Would it be possible to model the cab doors closed on the revised model and put the chip in there on the floor - maybe with a higher false floor and to half of a crew to disguise things?

    Cheers

    Steve

  • Andy Dapol
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    BTW, I realise that it appears there is space in the bunker with the weight removed (which will be easy to do). Whilst this is true for a hard-wired version (i.e. factory fitted) there is no room for a socket and blanking plate of any kind (6 pin/Next-18), which is needed for a DCC 'Ready' RTR model. I'm happy to take suggestions of course.

  • Joel Dapol
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    Will the attached Click image for larger version

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  • capri_sam
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    Joel Dapol would it be possible to see the CAD of the cab with weights to try and get a feel for whether conversion is practical?

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  • Joel Dapol
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    Hello Jeremiah, We have tried hard to include a DCC socket but the reality is there is no room without either compromising the cab interior or removing weight, either of which would compromise the looks or running for the majority of customers who run in DC. It is a shame, we agree but in our view is the best way forward. It should be possible to hardwire a decoder if customers so wish and it is then their choice in which area they wish to compromise. We did also consider the bunker, but there really is not enough room for everything that is involved.
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