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Is this loco worth a re-tooled DCC ready chassis.

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  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Hello Joel Dapol

    Is there any update on the GWR 14XX, LMS Ivatt and SR M7 getting updated chassis? Working on Dr Al's suggestion, can the motor from the Class 68 or Class 50 be used? They are just superb and smooth. All these models need is a new motor and new wheels.

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  • Joel Dapol
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    Hello Chris, this is not DCC Ready I am afraid, but I do understand it can be hardwired.

  • Chris Newman
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    Hi Team Dapol, I have recently acquired an Ivatt 2S-015-003 and without taking it apart to find out, is this version DCC ready or not or can it be converted , Please. Chris

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  • Richard Dallimore
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    I would assume that's a safe bet.

  • TomE
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    Presumably with the news of significant delays to other N Gauge models, any hopes of upgraded chassis for the Ivatt and others are now dead in the water?

    Tom.

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  • Longbow
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    Joel - that's valuable feedback thanks. As a result I have cancelled my pre-order and secured what must be one of the last available in the retail channel.

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  • Joel Dapol
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    2S-015-004 was released nearly two years ago I am afraid. I am not sure why the retailers you mention have not updated their systems as our policy in general is not to repeat a run on any specific running number and livery combination.

  • Longbow
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    Joel - thanks. That's surprising news, as I've been looking for one of these and the weathered early emblem 2MT (Dapol 2S-015-004) is widely listed as available for pre-order at Hattons, Rails of Sheffield, Gaugemaster and numerous smaller retailers.

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  • Joel Dapol
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    Hi Longbow, I am not sure which retailers are suggesting this, but no further releases are due and when we do release more, it will be the upgraded version that comes out. This will be after we have done the modifications of course! (which have not yet started). I hope that helps.

  • Longbow
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    I see that retailers are expecting another batch of the 2MT tank in BR livery - any idea please when this will be in the shops?
    Last edited by Longbow; 13 September 2016, 08:08.

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  • Dr Al
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    Thanks Joel - I think you may be able to do this super cheap - minimal retooling, and it would address (for me) the number one thing that now lets these down as compared what's come in more recent years - namely the delicacy of control needed to get good slow speed performance from the high revving 3 pole motors. If you could drop this motor in with no retool then the only other thing would be the wheels, which together with a revised pickup strip could all fit in the existing chassis without needing to retool that. I'm not DCC so DCCists will probably scream about no socket, but this one doesn't look a hard wired conversion.

    If not - do make the 57xx motors available as spares so I can try!!!!

    Bob - a tungsten chassis would need a full chassis retool which wasn't the aim of my suggestion as a minimalist upgrade.

  • Joel Dapol
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    Hello Al,the models you suggest are indeed due an upgrade and I like the idea of your cost effective piecemeal approach. I will bring these suggestions up in a forthcoming development meeting and report back here.

  • Dorsetmike
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    Yep, a bit of weight does help, see my post, #8 in the Push-pull thread, (video of M7 pulling 9 Maunsells and 2 bogie vans)

  • Bob G
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    And possibly a tungsten chassis to aid traction?

  • Dr Al
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    I've posted this already, but it seems to have been lost after the server reboot, so here again.

    The simplest improvement that could be made to this loco and the M7. 14xx, 45xx would be to replace the motor with the super-creep version in the 57xx. This surely would need minimal (if any) retooling as both motors are of similar size. I'd try it myself as a modification if I could get the supercreep as a spare! Beyond this, the chassis would only need spoked wheels to come to a fairly modern standard - as others have said the body tooling is very good.

    Would be a minimalistic way to majorly improve the slow speed running with the least amount of retooling.

    Thoughts, Dapol?

    Cheers,
    Al

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