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  • dazzer
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    Hi Joel,

    You made the following comment

    "Wow these coaches seem to have caused some irritation.

    I would ask you check on the web and find the exact coach. We have a picture of 10701 and you will find it with Sleeper at one end and no Cantrail.

    Cheers

    Joel"

    I have done a search on the web for 10701 and the picture that returns, is one of it at Long Marston stored (with a class 86 in orange in the picture) Is this the picture you have used for reference?

    Thanks

    Dazzer

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  • macnabs
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    I like the surprised response to all of this. "Wow" - as if all of this is unexpected? The glaring mistake that I pointed out was simply glossed over.

    "I would ask you check on the web and find the exact coach. We have a picture of 10701 and you will find it with Sleeper at one end and no Cantrail." (And indeed shows orange CDLs and correct INTERCITY typeface, but don't let that get in the way!). The photos I can easily find of 10701 show a rather atypical coach long after service... not a great basis for a model.

    You've got a number of keen and knowledgable customers who are offering assistance yet it all seems to fall on deaf ears. You should be getting it right anyway but appear too proud to ask for help and admit mistakes when it's sorely needed. In the hands of the right person with a good eye for detail, it would take no time at all.
    Last edited by macnabs; 7 October 2021, 17:21.

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  • Joel Dapol
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    Wow these coaches seem to have caused some irritation.

    I would ask you check on the web and find the exact coach. We have a picture of 10701 and you will find it with Sleeper at one end and no Cantrail.

    Cheers

    Joel

  • 37058
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    No orange cantrail lines?? I know the photo I uploaded back in February 2020 showed a close up photo without, but this is basically because they had faded away. All IC Mk3 sleepers in the swallow era had orange cantrails. Also note that the silver italic Sleeper lettering should be at all 4 ends not just 2 as per the Rails photo.

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    I currently have 12 of these on order, but I feel a lot of adjustments with the airbrush will be required... Also I agree with macnabs comment above regarding the IC typeface.

    Cheers
    Anthony

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  • macnabs
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    I'm in awe. Having produced multiple models in Swallow livery, including regular MK3 coaches, how on earth did Dapol suddenly get the logo typeface wrong?

    This certainly isn't the first time a typeface has been incorrect but you've got it right on all the other Swallow MK3s over the last 11+ years.

    I want to be supportive, especially as a manufacturer putting effort into Britsh N gauge, but dear god, please hire someone competent in creating and signing off artwork. All you're doing is costing yourself sales and creating a bad reputation.
    Last edited by macnabs; 6 October 2021, 22:08.

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  • Paul-H
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    Any update on these Joel

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  • dazzer
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    Hi Joel

    Have you been able to get any photo's of the sleepers?

    Thanks

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  • Joel Dapol
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    We should have some production samples soon and then we will get some photos published.

  • dazzer
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    Hi Joel

    See the MK3 sleeper is due to arrive soon, are you able to show any pictures of the finished product?

    Thanks

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  • dazzer
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    Originally posted by CaleyDave View Post
    Getting excited about the mk3 sleeper especially after the announcement of the Kms railtech exclusives.

    I did have one question for the Dapol team:

    2P-006-002 is listed as "BR Executive"

    A number of retailers have this listed on preorder but show the Swallow livery artwork.

    Is this model/code intended to be Executive or Swallow?

    (Executive being "intercity sleeper" Vs Swallow "INTERCITY")
    Hi Andy

    Any news on which version is being produced and do you know when these will become available?

    Dazzer

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  • JR_P
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    I would also be very keen to get the loco hauled mk3 ‘day’ coaches for the Night Riviera in FGW blue/purple and GWR green.

    Certainly in the FGW livery, they have a unique ‘night riviera’ moniker in the centre of the loco hauled mk3 ‘day’ coaches, which makes the livery slightly different to the standard FGW livery on the HST TS and buffet coaches.

    The ‘day’ coaches used to be used on summer Saturdays in the past, which offers further modelling possibilities....

  • Andy Dapol
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    It will certainly be discussed.

  • Ed-Farms
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    Put me down for the EWS management train if and when you do them Andy, I have the 67 and DVT set so need the middle coaches

  • Andy Dapol
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    The EWS set is not included in the current run, but no doubt we will produce this in the future. Loco Mk3's are planned in those liveries.

  • Andy Dapol
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    Hi. Thanks for this. It seems theres been a communication issue somewhere. The models are as the artwork.
    I will ask sales & marketing to clarify this to dealers.
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