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  • Ged L
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    Congratulations Joel, Andy & Richard. I received my 3 Class 68s last week. One of each livery. I have been giving them a good run in and they are absolutely superb, a real step up in overall quality and finesse. The running qualities are excellent, quiet and very powerful. The complicated body shape and liveries have been executed very successfully. The detail is amazing and the very fine printing is exquisite. They are all perfect and ran beautifully straight from the box. You pushed the boat out with this model and I reckon it was worth it and you succeeded!
    cheers,
    Ged

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  • DavidInYork
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    Originally posted by woodbury22uk View Post
    For the enthusiasts for the Chiltern Mainline livery there is one set used on the Banbury commuter services which uses original format Mk3 coaches with hinged doors but in Mainline livery. Close up picture here of one coach next to the former "catering" vehicle which retains the original doors too. So possible to do the livery accurately even without modifying the moulds. http://lexamanda.com/subtalk/10_uk/DSC_0915_Banbury.jpg
    That photo shows what is now one of the power-door sets, before the power doors were fitted (the 68s didn't replace the 67s until well after this was done). The doors at the counter end of the catering vehicle do still remain as slam doors, but for emergency use only - the handles have been removed. All other doors are now power doors.

    The Banbury set (which retains slam doors, and does not have a catering vehicle) was until a year or two ago in BR blue and grey livery, but has since been painted into a slightly different livery to the power-door sets, with white in the middle and grey at the ends. This is the one which Dapol could easily do as it's just TSOs.

    The power door / slam door coaches cannot be mixed in service.

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  • Richard Dallimore
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    My class 68005 arrived from Kernow MRC mid week and I have test run it today, I am very pleased and impressed with this model. Yes 1 handrail was misaligned but otherwise all seems to be excellent, it runs very quiet and very slow. I have taken the body off and the bogies are correctly assembled and lights seem to be correct. I have rather forcible removed the cove on the roof to access the switches, real shame this is glued down and so difficult to do, otherwise it would be a great idea. Overall a great model, real pleased with my purchase and definitely a rule 1.

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  • woodbury22uk
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    I thought my second sentence covered the door handrail issue, are there more?

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  • Vonzack
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    These are not the handrails you should be looking for, it's the ones either side of the cab door.

  • Vonzack
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    In my case the handrails must have been lost prior to boxing as two were missing from the end with the coupling and were definitely not in the box. Then when I DCC'd another one, as I removed the body the light pipes fell out of both ends. These don't just clip back in or certainly didn't on my model, so it was out with the glue and even then it took me two attempts to get one end done properly.

    The chassis and circuit board do seem to be a step up in quality for me and the weight of the chassis (100g) should give no problems with haulage, admittedly I haven't been able to verify this yet but it's as near as dammit the same weight as a Farish 66 / 60 which don't have any haulage issues. They are also very very quiet in operation.

    The printing also appears to be very well done, queries about scratches on the compass logo are just people who aren't up to speed with how the prototype looks.

  • deltic131
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    The catalogue specification says printed name plates with etched name plates supplied. Neither of my 2 loco's I have purchased have etched name plates supplied with them. A point for Dapol to make clear what the name plate position should be. Thank you.

  • woodbury22uk
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    The comment in the baister1 post about handrails missing on one of the Hattons website pages photos intrigued me a bit. There is one loco with the door handrail not fully seated at the bottom, and one with one door handrail missing.. I can see how easy it is to think that the Chiltern 68014 without handrails is wrong, but of course it is not. Here is my photo of sister locomotive 68013 taken at Marylebone on 27 April 2016 and looking particularly barefaced without a handrail in sight!
    Last edited by woodbury22uk; 25 February 2018, 17:56. Reason: Added detail

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  • woodbury22uk
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    For the enthusiasts for the Chiltern Mainline livery there is one set used on the Banbury commuter services which uses original format Mk3 coaches with hinged doors but in Mainline livery. Close up picture here of one coach next to the former "catering" vehicle which retains the original doors too. So possible to do the livery accurately even without modifying the moulds. http://lexamanda.com/subtalk/10_uk/DSC_0915_Banbury.jpg

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  • JackD09
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    Will etched nameplates be available separately?

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  • Joel Dapol
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    HI I'm sorry you feel that way. The vast majority of comments we have had are that people are very pleased with their models and many are quoting it is the best Dapol N gauge model to date The models which I have seen and inspected (very many) would validate this. I have been informed some hand rails have become detached in transit, however, this is in only a few cases and the twisted buffers and drive issues are news to me as is the poor printing you are alluding to.

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    "Oh how I wish Farish did this one instead"
    Farish..? Really?? The company that made a Class 31 that has wire sandpipes and moulded on handrails on the face of the loco. I shudder to think what their Class 68 would've had.

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Did you try asking for a replacement or a refund before you lost your temper over this?

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Asking Dapol to hang their heads in shame because of a few models with minor issues is a complete overreaction! I really feel bad for Dapol. From the entire batch the amount of complaints are equal to if not less than the usual amount. Human nature is such that when we are happy we will say little or nothing about it, yet when were unhappy we want our voices to reach far and wide.

    Infact from my 10+ years of actively participating on various social media platforms regarding model trains this seems to be one of the best releases till date. I've not seen a flurry of any sort on various forums and Facebook.

    Collectively from sources like facebook, rmweb, NGaugeForum and the Dapol Digest I have not seen more than 10 people complain. Out of those 10 many were happy to re-apply some glue and get the handrails back on. Again from collectively viewing the various sources the problems listed are:-
    - Gear tower/bogie not clipped in properly. 1 person reported this from what I saw and it was fixed in a couple of minutes.
    - About a handful of people complained about handrails falling off and majority of them were happy to glue them back. A couple of them were not present in the box and was returned for a refund or replacement.
    - A few people have complained about issues with the headlight lenses being a little crooked.

    The real flurry has been on facebook and the "flurry" was outstandingly positive.


    Last edited by JeremiahBunyan; 25 February 2018, 05:30.

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  • woodbury22uk
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    Whilst I sympathise with baister1 I am a bit surprised at some of the criticisms being raised, where, after a flurry of activity, the original poster then finds the mistake is theirs. The buffers are not glued in place. They are a friction fit and can be rotated to the correct orientation if they are out of true. Light guides detaching when dismantling to adjust the lighting switches is just a matter of taking care to reseat them when refitting the body. There is no printing error on my DRS loco and the comment I saw showed the model and real loco look the same. I had a cab front handrail detach at one end when detaching the body. I clipped it back in place. Agreed the handrails are vulnerable to clumsy handling and some appear to have detached in transit from China on some models received. But overall these are small issues which are easy to overcome. The bogie gear housing detaching appears to be an issue on a couple of models so far and warrants a bit more investigation, but none of this warrants a wholesale condemnation in my view. Really pleased with my Chiltern and DRS versions, both now running in passenger service, one propelling a DVT and 4 Mk3s and the other hauling a similar formation. Both are smooth and quiet in operation on my layout with 2% gradients, S curves, and points and crossings. Hopefully there are many more like mine.
    Last edited by woodbury22uk; 24 February 2018, 20:57. Reason: Spelling

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