HST-P Opening Post:

[Andy Dapol]

Dapol are producing an N Gauge version of the HST-P in conjunction with the Miller Project.
This model will be available by pre-registration directly from Dapol only. Profits will be donated to Project Miller.

In response to feedback received after our initial announcement we are now producing the model as separate packs and making the power cars available as a twin pack, although this change has adversly affected the overall price of the set due to packaging costs.

The specification of the model is:

Power cars:

• Operating lighting (inclusive of rear lamp, which can be overridden by a switch)
• Flush Glazing
• Highly detailed body, chassis and bogies.
• NEM coupling pockets with Rapido and Ezi-shunt magnetic couplings inclusive.
• DCC Ready (6 pin)
• All wheel pick-up
• Super-creep motor (Dummy car is un-motorised)
• Available as two-car sets (1 x Motorised & 1 x Dummy)
  • 2D-xxx-xxx Power Car Pack 1: Prototype passenger livery (DMBs: 41001 & 41002)
  • 2D-xxx-xxx Power Car Pack 2: Departmental (overall yellow ends DMBs: 975812 & 975813)

Coaches:

• New Tooling
  • Recessed door handles
  • Without window bezels
  • Loco-Hauled type roof
  • Without CDL indicator blister
  • Buffers
• Light-bar ready
• Fitted pickups
• NEM Coupling pockets
• Accessory pack.
• Available as 2 x 4 car sets
  • 2P-xxx-xxx Contents: 2 x TF (11000, 11001) and 2 x TS (12000, 12001)
  • 2P-xxx-xxx Contents: 2 x TF (11002, 11003) and 2 x TS (12002, 12003)

Catering Vehicles:
We have examined the possibility closely of producing the catering vehicles, and have taken the decision to produce these as a separate 2 car pack based on our existing Mk3 catering car and decorated in matching HST-P livery, but without any tooling modifications.Therefore the catering pack will be:

• Dapol Mk3 Buffet car in matching HST-P livery
• Lightbar ready
• 2P-005-xxx 2 car Buffet Pack
  • 10000 as Trailer Buffet (TRSB)
  • 10100 as Trailer Kitchen (TRUK)

Therefore in order to own a full HST-P set you will need the following:
1 x 2D-xxx-xxx (Power cars)
1 x 2P-xxx-xxx (Saloon pack 1)
1 x 2P-xxx-xxx (Saloon pack 2)
1 x 2P-xxx-xxx (Buffet pack)

[Arthur Hodgett]

Absolutely brilliant, far far better than I had ever hoped, but by buying both sets of engines two possible trains WOW!
I did think with it being the 40th anniversary of the HST this year we may have got the very first set without the cowl on top, black inset on the 125 and even two buffets with correct nomenclature even if the wrong design of buffet coaches. I still would like it though, no tooling just livery changes.

[Andy Dapol]

Hi Arthur, thanks for your comments. I've replied a little more fully in your other post in the main part of the topic.

[robert shrives]

Hi just spotted the spec change - good move as it also allows for power car only ATP-P test trains. Really looking forward to this development,Thanks.
Robert

[robert shrives]

To raise a smile on buffet cars the Miller group and Dapol in line as the group have painted a mK3a loco hauled RFM into orginal livery complete with orange CDL and a cant rail stripe- sure model will have bubble painted out and no stripe to cover prototype operating period but made me
Robert

[Andy Dapol]

Probably the tooling cost again

[Themetropolitanline]

I have shown interest in 2 of these sets. I hope enough people show interest for these

[JeremiahBunyan]

I really did want to buy a set of these, but at the moment I simply cannot afford it. Is there any deadline for the expressions of interest? If so I can save up and buy one. I can't stand a chance to miss these but yet I cannot afford them at the moment.

Fingers crossed.

[Joel Dapol]

I would not worry too much, if we do go ahead with the project then the product will be on general sale. The expression of interest is just a way for us to gauge the demand for the product and is not a commitment to buy. I hope that helps.

[Matt Pinto]

Glad that this project is moving forward and great to see that modelers will be able to make up different sized trains to suit their layouts and budgets.

[Ben A]

Hi Dapol,

Smart move to revise the proposed train packs; I think the variants on offer now will be a far more attractive proposition to a greater number of customers!

[JeremiahBunyan]

Thanks for that info Joel, I thought it was a strict limited edition and I wouldn't get a chance

[Midland]

Can the power cars be specified as sound-ready rather than just DCC-ready?

[Mustermark]

This is great. I will be ordering a full train, and I'm so pleased that the catering cars will be available too.
How do we pre-register? Or is that what I did with my expression of interest a few months ago?

You do know we will need the APT-E to go with this, right?

[Joel Dapol]

There is no need to do anything. As you registered your EOI you will be kept abreast as the model develops if we do go ahead, that is. The model will be available for sale through our website or via the Miller Group. I hope that helps.

APT-E! are you trying to kill us :-)

[Scruff]

Not trying to kill you @Joel Dapol.. But... If you guys have 5 minutes in a coffee break, perhaps the APT-P could be drawn up too!! ;-)

Cheers
Mark

[DavidInYork]

Can anyone say where this term 'HST-P' came from? Has it been invented specifically for this model? I have never seen it used before - it's always 'Prototype HST' or 'HSDT' (High Speed Diesel Train). The -P suffix was used for the electric version of the APT.

[Andy Dapol]

Probably my fault! I remember back in the day, my father taking me on both the Prototype HST and the APT-P (and E!) and forever after the TLA (Three-letter acronym) with suffix stuck.

[robert shrives]

A rose by any name !
Robert

[ohlavache]

Will you post some pictures of the decorated samples when they are available ?

[Steve Boon]

I did suggest the apt some time ago on the Facebook page but was told there wouldn't b Enid interest 😒

[robert shrives]

Hi FWIW on Shapeways over the last few years a gent is slowly working on an APT - P with motor car and some vehicles printed for his own use and bogie on the way with the nose being a bit of s*d to make and get right, plus some external hassles has affected works but if patient I think one will make a showing. With Fox and others doing stripes it might prove possible to make a working model - it uses a class 90 or 91 if I recall correctly.
I think Lottery win the only likely fund source as it will never wash its face as a commercial project despite all our best wishes!
Robert

[mike]

Jeremiah - you might be right about the APT-P, but as Rapido have proved with the APT-E that is a very different kettle of fish and would cost nothing like £500 per set!

[DavidInYork]

I don't see why the APT-P would be less popular than the APT-E - there were, after all, more APT-Ps and they ran in passenger service. Rapido hasn't really proved anything - OO gauge is much more popular than N so just because something is financially viable in OO doesn't mean that it would be in N. Plus obviously smaller production run = higher cost per unit.