HST Artwork

[Neil Dapol]

HI,

We are starting to release artwork for the next batch of new HST's. Starting with GWR Green and GNER Power cars. We welcome constructive comment....

[Nealjennings125]

Both artwork examples you have shown Neil look excellent, positioning of Logos stripes and details of the livery are looking fine.
The GNER Sample is the better looking of the two, but maybe thats because Iam more familiar with that livery being an East Coast mainline fan.

My only criticism would be the Base Blue shade on GNER 43106 and the Base Green shade on GWR 43187 they both look to light.
But this could be because of my computer screen being very bright haha.

I look forward to seeing more samples released.
Thanks.

Neal.

[JeremiahBunyan]

"My only criticism would be the Base Blue shade on GNER 43106 and the Base Green shade on GWR 43187 they both look to light.
But this could be because of my computer screen being very bright haha."

Take no offence but this is why a lot of manufacturers refrain from posting artwork. It's because the modelling public take the colour on their screen as the colour of the model and that's far from the truth. Artwork comprises of just a guide. In one corner of the official diagrams is a key for the factory in China to follow. The key shows a shade similar to the real thing but beside that the RAL code is given. The colour in all artwork is only representative. Black is shown as grey but the RAL code is the correct shade of black. Similarly the teal green will be correct on the model.

So it goes without saying, the colour is representative and Dapol know what they are doing. The only time to correct it is when you see a painted sample.

A useful guide http://www.ralcolor.com/

[JeremiahBunyan]

Excellent Neil...Both look great and I cannot wait to see further renders.

[Neil Dapol]

thank you for the comments thus far, colours are yet to be finalised, as you can imagine theses things do not always translate well to on screen views. Any further comments are welcome.

[resolve10]

I'm not going to say whether the colour is right or wrong (it's impossible to tell on a computer screen), but do be careful with the GNER livery, as I reckon the Hornby and Farish attempts at the livery were both too light. In reality, it was a very dark shade of blue.

The positioning of the logos and the typeface for the numbers all look good to me though. Thanks for sharing these. Personally I'm most interested in the Virgin one...

Unless you feel like adding a Midland Mainline teal and orange at the last minute.... I'd have a 2+7 set without a second thought!!

[Neil Dapol]

We will post the other artworks when they are ready. Can't squeeze an extra one in last minute but Midland Mainline is a good suggestion for next time round.

[JeremiahBunyan]

Whilst we're on the topic of Midland Mainline HSTs...I've always preferred their blue stag liveries.

http://ukrailways1970tilltoday.me.uk...3198in2003.jpg

http://ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shops...ivery-80-p.jpg

http://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/Archi...Z-TAUNTON1.jpg

https://i2.wp.com/www.125group.org.u...10/43056e1.jpg

Please consider these for another batch!

[clowen84]

Both look good to me, only question (and I apologise if this has been asked/answered elsewhere), will the GWR HST be supplied with etched letters? I think it would really be a lovely detail.

[JeremiahBunyan]

That would be a superb addition, the Hornby model looks beautiful with etched plates. I suppose if Dapol don't then someone can always commission somebody to do it.

[Neil Dapol]

Hi,

We have been choosing colour codes for the HST's, first up is GNER - Blue = Ral 5005, Red stripe = Pantone Warm Red C and finally the Logo Yellow = Pantone 129C. All constructive comment is welcomed. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Does anyone out there have the actual corporate livery info????

[47352]

Hi,

We have been choosing colour codes for the HST's, first up is GNER - Blue = Ral 5005, Red stripe = Pantone Warm Red C and finally the Logo Yellow = Pantone 129C. All constructive comment is welcomed. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Does anyone out there have the actual corporate livery info????

RAL5003 is a far lighter blue than the GNER shade which can appear almost black in some photos.

[JeremiahBunyan]

Hello Neil,

May I suggest using RAL5003 instead?

Cheers!
JB

[DavidInYork]

I would suggest asking the 125 group to check colours and artwork for HST models, if they are willing.

[hsthero]

Regarding the GNER HST Livery colours I have the book "Railway Liveries : Privatisation 1995-2000" by Colin Boocock.

In the Appendix D it states : Livery information based on the author's request for information.

Midnight Blue : Pantone 5395; PPG Deltron EFT-64925
GNER Red : Pantone 032 ; PPG Deltron EFT-10327
Metallic Gold : Scotchcal 3630-131 (not retro-reflective)

I hope this may be useful.

Colin W

[Neil Dapol]

Thank you for the info I will see if I can get a copy of that book. Sounds like a very good resource

[DavidInYork]

Will these still have 6-pin DCC sockets or are you looking to update them to Next18?

[Neil Dapol]

I will need to double check but I think this batch will still be the 6 pin variety of decoder.

[resolve10]

RAL5005 is way way too light, certainly don't go with that one!