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  • Joel Dapol
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    We are just refining the first EP so should have some new images to show in the next month or so. Decorations are about to start, so I would say (if pushed) release for the end of the year.

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Yup that's right!

  • LaGrange
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    Im taking it the recent Dapol annoucement referring to the '59' is the N Gauge version? Given this OO version has had metal cut

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  • 159220
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    What are the timescales for the 59 during 2017 now that the 68 has been delivered?

  • 159220
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    I am wondering has there been any background progress on the 59? With hope that we shall see the HOA wagons in OO gauge I am even more interested in the 59s.

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  • Jimp
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    Having seen the quality f the Black Label locos and the realistic smoke that they produce and can't wait to get my hands on the class 59, although it is early days could you give some indication of when they will be produce.

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  • Andy Dapol
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    I found something down the side of the sofa just now - see
    https://digest.dapol.co.uk/forum/mai...o-class-59-e-p

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Something's telling me that this thread is going to see pictures of the EP samples shortly! Am I right? Just impatient...

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  • 159220
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    Sounds promising. These the first shots or 1st EP samples? The former being a busy schedule modelling one?

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    Now you're teasing...! Now I am more impatient...!

  • Andy Dapol
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    Something UPS shaped this way comes.....
    Busy schedule for the next 10 days or so, but news will be posted soon.

  • JeremiahBunyan
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    I can feel the impatience creeping in...Cannot wait to see EPs

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  • 159220
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    Thanks for the details Andy. It is a very appealing system of order and sense. I have been meaning to talk to a prof in manufacturing whether they have experience similar and more important is there any studies which go into explaining where the errors from design to manufacturer creep in. As truly interesting this one. Knowing how well a particular methodology is created and followed, it impresses me such detailed work flows are created for model railways. But I certainly see how the investment in research time pays dividends when coming to checking CADs and 1st EP for errors. I have actually never appreciated the work flow and detail which surrounds a 1st EP when looking at one myself and commenting, perhaps that is common among potential customers and explains a lot about reactions to CAD and 1st EP in not having the full matrix before them.

    As I am sure you shall agree, as long as our descriptions/observations are perfect, then you can disagree with the results. But the description cannot be questioned.

    Anyway, are you any nearer to receiving the 1st EPs of the 59s? Looking forward to seeing. (Though still a little lost in the amount of wagons which can be used, I have found the research into them very interesting)

  • Andy Dapol
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    There's a fine line between needing to produce spec. sheets for each variation of a model (maybe even down to an artwork sheet for a simple number change) and being able to produce generics with detail changes in a matrix. Despite the time saving aspect, it varies depending on complexity, simple projects may have spec sheets for instance. Sometimes having many individual spec. sheets can cause confusion as well. When the matrix is based on a tooling type, it basically states that 'this tool must be capable of producing this model with this variation, this variation and that variation'. etc. Each type is a line item on the matrix.
    Generally its quite clear, but errors can creep in for other reasons. However, if the matrix is incorrect to start with then we defiantly have issues!
    I tend to build the matrix up from a loco 'survey', photos, descriptive texts and information from those 'who know' this is then my master list for the tooling specification. CADs and especially the 1st EP is then compared to this information.
    Mostly this is where errors and omissions start, perhaps a crucial photo angle was missed, or a unique variant was not available and has not been documented This forum will be a useful addition to this process as we'll have a wider audience to engage with.

  • 159220
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    Originally posted by Andy Dapol View Post
    During research we determine the major differences between versions of the locomotive, i.e. air cooler (Finned or serpentine) or Bell/ No-bell. If body shapes differ greatly, then separate cads are produced. We also produce a matrix for each model. This details all major and minor detail changes which we plan for the model and lists them by our product number and cross references to the CAD. This ensures the factory get the detail correct for each version.
    That is really interesting, I do not know why but I find visualising things like that interesting. A little like having layers in illustrator linked to a matrix, to remove the feature which does or not exist. (Also explained perhaps why 1st EP tooling is not spot on as there has been confusion and something not translated from the clear matrix to the tooling design?

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